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Irish property: have we finally reached the bottom?

posted by Simon Moynihan Jan 10, 2011 at 00:00 in Property

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January is traditionally the tumbleweed month in the property market so it’s certainly an odd time of year to be musing on property. It’s not something I do much of and it’s certainly not my area of expertise. And of course Irish people have talked enough property over the last decade to do for a generation and are so hung-over from the bust that the thought of another “launch” or “opportunity” would probably turn them green.

Anyway, what’s the point? The banks aren’t lending, people can’t sell and prices still seem to be falling. The once hallowed Irish Times property section is rarely even a supplement anymore, its been reduced to little more than a sad page or two at the back of the paper. All neighbourhoods have houses that have been for sale for years – and we snoop online every now and then and hope that they don’t slash prices any further, as it gives us that queasy feeling about the value of our own homes.

So what am I doing writing about it then? Well, a few interesting things have happened recently. Our government has finally realised that there is not going to be any money in stamp duty for a long, long time so they’ve decided to slash it and slowly bleed us dry with a property tax instead. Then there were three new year’s reports that said property prices had fallen by another 14% (ish) in 2010 – so you can now buy a house for 2002 money. Well, if you have the money, that is.

With the stamp duty cut, there was lots of chatter about how it *might* apply a jolt of life to property market, and it just might. It means that people with deposits could theoretically use them as actual deposits instead of having to save up two of them to cover the stamp duty as well. So good news for home buyers in all price brackets right? Well yeah, but what about home owners who’ve already paid 9% stamp duty?

As a bit of a cynic, I’d also like to point out that if you buy a home and own it for say 40 years, and the government charges an annual property tax of 1%, you’ll fork over at least 40% of the price you paid for the house in taxes (depending on how the tax is calculated, and you can bet it won’t be favourable to the homeowner). So good news for getting a home, bad news for home-owners in the long term, good news for the government. See, no kindness there.

Next there’s falling house prices. 14% is extraordinary hammering for any market to take. It’s luxury car type depreciation and none of the guys at Daft, MyHome and Sherry Fitz who produced the new year’s grimmest news expect prices to stop falling. And that’s coming from estate agents!

Prices may not fall that much further though. I know there’s no confidence in the market, there’s no credit out there and the banks are broken and owned by the State. But there is one thing to hang a little hope on…

Last July, the Economist magazine published a report that said that Irish homes were about 16% overvalued at the start of 2010. They base their analysis on what they call “fair value” which is a comparison between what it will cost you pay down the loan and what you’ll get back in rent. Face-washing basically.

So if we’ve lost another 14% then surely we’re reaching “fair value” now? Of course, property could continue to fall and become undervalued which given the fact that you can’t borrow a cent, taxes are up and jobs are scarce is certainly likely. We’ve also got the problem of oversupply. But there’s something in the Irish psyche that is attracted to bricks and mortar as an investment and there is still an awful lot of money in Irish bank accounts.

The question then is: can you really cover of a loan with rent on a standard house in a desirable neighbourhood? For the sake of simplicity, we’ll go with a couple of semi-detached homes in neighbourhoods that are well serviced by public transport, schools and amenities. According to estate agents, these seem to be the only homes that are selling at the moment.

In Blackrock, Co Dublin, Allen and Jacobs Estate Agents are selling a 4-bed semi in the Coppinger Glade estate. At the risk of sounding like an estate agent myself, it’s a nice recently built home in a cul-de-sac overlooking a green and is close to public transport, shopping and schools. Thanks to the magic of The Irish Property Watch website at www.irishpropertywatch.com we can see that the house has been for sale since June 2009 when it hit the market at a €650,000.18 months and several price cuts later, the house is now for sale at €419,950. A drop of 35%.

In the same estate, there’s a similar 4-bed semi for rent. It’s the same design but a little smaller, as the one for sale has a kitchen extension. The house comes furnished or unfurnished and is in good condition. The owner is looking for €1,750 per month rent. Which I’m sure he’ll get.

For the sake of this wheeze, let’s imagine you have the 10% deposit, 1% stamp duty and could get a loan to finance the house for sale. So, asking price is €419,950. We borrow 90% which is €377,955 on a standard variable rate of 3.5% over 30 years. The payment without any breaks or reliefs comes to just under €1,700 per month.

I know that landlords would say that there’s vacant months, upkeep and taxes to consider, but for the purpose of this exercise, it looks like “fair value” has been reached in this sought after South Dublin neighbourhood.

How about another one. In Clonskeagh which is also a well serviced neighbourhood  in South Dublin, Lynam Estate Agents are selling a 3-bed semi in Roebuck Downs for €465,000. Roebuck Downs is also a nice estate with open areas and parkland. The house has been for sale for about six months and so far, there have been no price cuts. In the same estate there’s a similar 3-bed semi for rent at €1,800. It’s unfurnished and in very good condition.

Using the same criteria as last time, payments on the house for sale would be €1,880 so rent of €1,800 would leave a small shortfall, but again, we’re very close to “fair value” and I’d bet that for a buyer with the cash, that sale price is very negotiable.

Another way of deciding whether property is worth investing in is to look at the rent as the yield on an investment rather than the recent Irish method of looking at the appreciation in the property’s value. Suppose you buy one of these houses for cash. The rent you get is then the yield on your investment. With both of the Dublin houses above we’re looking at a yield of about 5%. That’s the best I’ve seen in a very long time, but with the specter of further drops in value haunting the property market, it’s probably not high enough to attract cash investors yet.

There are plenty more examples of “fair value” in Ireland now but for house prices to stop falling a number of vitally important things to happen. Firstly, cash investors need to come back into the market and with yields at about 5%, there’s probably still a good way to go before investors return. Next, credit needs to become available. It’s been very well documented over the last year that the banks are simply not lending. I noted here last June that lending had fallen by 85% from the top of the market. Third, nobody knows what’s going to happen when the moratoriums come to an end. There are tens of thousands of householders that are seriously behind in their payments and if these houses are repossessed and sold openly for whatever the market will bear, we may finally see what true Irish market value actually is.

 

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Jonathan

Jan 10, 2011 at 20:11

Your rather simplistic number crunching makes a number of dumb assumptions. 1. That rents will not fall further (they likely will with massive oversupply) 2. That interest rates will remain steady at 3.5% (they most certainly won't) 3. Other costs of ownership won't be applied (a property + water tax is coming soon) In short according to your calculations buying a house might make ok sense now but things will change shortly and I believe we all have a good idea how things are set to pan out in the next few years. Therefore I would advise anybody thinking of jumping on the property wagon based on these figures to think again.
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Simon Moynihan

Jan 10, 2011 at 22:56

Dear Jonathan, Thank you for your comment and I take your points on board. Much of this blog is a straightforward number crunch based on several assumptions and I certainly hope that nobody would think of making the biggest financial decisions of their lives based on this. I personally believe that there is room for house prices to fall further overall and detailed this in the blog. However, what I wanted to look at here was whether in the current environment, homes in so called desirable neighbourhoods that are well serviced and are likely to always be in demand could be let for the cost of their mortgages. This is a simple "fair value" test and it drives the property market from the renter's perspective. If a renter can buy for the same price in the same neighbourhood, it makes purchasing rather than renting much more attractive. It also offers a potentially attractive proposition for investors. I looked at a large number of homes for sale and for rent and concluded that in many cases in these so called desirable neighbourhoods rents and payments on 30 year mortgages were very similar. However, as you say, property could be a very risky proposition now as there are just too many uncertainties in the maket. Thanks again for your comment Simon
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Dr Factor

Jan 12, 2011 at 23:25

A fairly positive assessment however I would concur with the previous poster in that interest rates are set to increase - the banks will seek to increase their margins to cover past mistakes and we are likely to see the underlying ECB rate increase in time also. Another commonly used valuation technique is applying a multiple of annual rental income - say 15x which still leaves us a little on the high side. One factor I see is that a cash buyer will pay tax on the rental income of an investment property - this does not happen in Las Vegas where you may be better off investing as gambling on the Irish property Market this side of the default is boring.
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Andrew

Jan 13, 2011 at 16:45

Where has irishpropertywatch.com gone to??? I used this great site for keeping an eye on property prices as I plan to buy this year but when I went to check on a property which I thought had dropped in price the page came up as 'account suspended'. Any ideas??
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Simon Moynihan

Jan 13, 2011 at 17:07

Dear Andrew, I don't know what happened to the site. I have just checked it myself and found the same. It was working earlier in the week when I was writing this. I checked boards.ie and there doesn't seem to be anything there either. Simon
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Andrew

Jan 13, 2011 at 19:59

I hope this is a temporary measure because I found the site very useful. I looked on boards too to see if anyone had mentioned why it was down but saw nothing... Andrew
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Kate

Jan 16, 2011 at 18:31

I think this happened before in April when they moved to a new server. Hopefully this is the same situation. Such a great site for housebuyers.
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Andrew

Jan 20, 2011 at 22:21

Irish Property Watch is back! Just checked a few minutes ago and it's back up. The URL hasn't changed but may be on a new server/host? Who knows? Anyway, click here... http://www.irishpropertywatch.com/index.php
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JK

Jan 30, 2011 at 16:46

Good article Simon. My only comment is that historically ''Fair Value'' is greatly surpassed on the way up in a rising market. In Irelands case it was exceeded by roughly 45% by my many estimates. Likewise house prices historically drop below ''Fair Value'' during corrections. With the current banking situation, rising interest rates and the high levels of debt accumulated I wouldn't be shocked to see prices drop 40% below ''fair value''. Hang in there Simon and you will pick up that house in Coppinger Glade for 250-300K.
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